PODCAST: Get Out & Search The Planet With Your Mobile Phone; GyPSii CEO Takes Wraps Off Strategy To Index The Real World & Deliver Advertising As Content
Continuing with Part 2 of my audio interview with Dan Harple, CEO of GeoSentric, the company behind GyPSii, a digital mobile lifestyle application. But look beneath the hood (and listen in to Part 1 of the series) and GyPSii isn’t just another company jockeying for position in the location-aware mobile social networking space. It’s got its eye on the prize: Using our location, our social graph (because we are members of the GyPSii community), and our judgment to index the world around us. Google may be about organizing the world’s information; GyPSii is about organizing the real world.
What to do with a people-powered, user-generated index of the world out there? Follow in Google’s footsteps and sell advertising on top of it.
As I wrote in my last post, GyPSii has cleverly harnessed PlaceMe, a primary function of GyPSii that allows you to create a point of interest (POI), add your content (image, video, audio, text), add your current or last geo-location, categorize/tag/describe the POI, and submit to the server in real time to a personal or publicly designated folder in your MyPlaces (your record of points of interest).
To get this to Google scale, GyPSii needs a lot of people out there indexing the world with their mobile phones. It’s an ambitious strategy, but not far-fetched. Dan’s forecast models tell him that a company with 7 million users, each doing 2 PlaceMes a month would produce an index in the first year that would be “significantly larger than the Google file system in its first year.” (Dan expects GyPSii to be on “between 80 and 100 million devices in the coming 12 months.”)
There are no stats on active users as a percentage of that total. But GyPSii members tend to be hyperactive when it comes to PlaceMe, creating and tagging “15-20 PlaceMes per month.” Every time GyPSii members do that, they are adding a new indexed item to what the company calls the Osmotic File System (OFS).
Where does mobile advertising come in? It’s already work in progress in China. In fact, GyPSii has a lot of progress to report in China – period. As Dan sees it: “To have an ad-based model, you have to have an audience.” To reach more members (and encourage them to index the world around them) GyPSii’s has this week launched the Java version of its application, with both Chinese and English language support.
The expectation, according to the press release, is that the new app will “appeal to the 70 percent of the 650 million phone owners in China who own Java-based phones.” By way of background, GyPSii is already locally available in China for the major operators China Mobile and China Unicom, for download on compatible Java phones. GyPSii is also available globally across a wide range of devices, including Samsung, Nokia, LG, Apple iPhone, and BlackBerry smartphones.
How does GyPSii plan to make the jump from critical mass to relevant advertising? What is the rev share model for partners (handset makers and carriers) who get on board? And what is the experience for members that use the ExploreMe function to search the world around them (and so trigger the delivery of an ad on their mobile device)? These are just a few of the questions I explored with Dan in this final segment of our podcast interview. (It’s a little longer than my usual interviews, but I felt detail was necessary to fully understand the interplay between search and advertising GyPSii-style.
Listen to the podcast here. [20:27]
Excerpts from the interview:
PEOPLE-POWERED SEARCH: Dan is a great believer (as I am) in social search on mobile. As he pus it: “This is the ultimate user generated content business model ever.” With patented technology in place (as part of the PlaceMe function), the next step is scale. “It’s got to be at scale because if our goal is to build that index, we’ve got to get lots of people to use the app.” Downloading is only part of it. Bundling is the business model that drives results.
WATERFALL MODEL: This model sits at the core of how GyPSii does deals and shares the money. “It starts with OEM manufacturers, and then to ODM manufacturers. So we go and get bundle relationships with them to get on-deck.” After GyPSii seals the deals to be on the phones, “the water falls, [and] the next layer is the carrier layer.” Then, as you begin to get scale, you use something like Open Experience, the API, to further connect all of the social networks.” And what do handset makers get? Future revenue. As Dan puts it: “If you’re a phone manufacturer, for example, once you sell your phone, it’s a done deal. You have to make a new one and sell it. We’ve got a business model that enables a phone to be an annuity generating device for a manufacturer, and that’s all the downstream advertising that results out of any given phone. So, that way, every device they make is an investment in a future revenue stream.”
MOBILITY AD DELIVERY: “In selecting GyPSii, they’ve not just selected this app to be bundled; they’ve selected the whole GyPSii back- end system, which also is a contextual search and add delivery system. So, strategically we’ve been selected for mobility based advertising delivery by some of the world’s largest manufacturers and I think that’s kind of a strategic place to be because they believe in this vision….They understand mobility, [and] they don’t appreciate a top-down play from other companies coming in trying to do a land grab on their customer base.”
ADVERTISING EXPERIENCE: It’s a lot like the mobile search we know, except the index is created by people and the ads – well – don’t look like ads. It all starts with a function called ExploreMe. From the website: “ExploreMe allows you to find places by keyword, category, proximity based across the general public, by your friends in your social network, or limited to your own personal points of interest. The resultant places allow you to see full context of photos, video, audio, text and ratings by the owners, contact the owner of the place (dependent on user settings), allow you to map the place, and with navigation allow you to get to the place.” Essentially, ExploreMe is what Dan calls the first step in “planet search or experience search.” You get search results and ads that are sold into that index in the same way that ads are sold into the Google index. How do the ads look? A lot like content. But you could also get a coupon. No matter what you get, when you make a selection it triggers an advertising-based transaction – and a pay-off to the handset manufacturer.
MORE THAN MOBILES: Who said mobile advertising has to be delivered to mobile phones? GyPSii’s goal is to be on every device out there. “That’s not just phones, it’s also netbooks. We’ve got a relationship with Intel; we’ve been selected as part of their reference platform for all mobile Internet devices and netbooks. There are other ways to be mobile besides just your phone, so every mobile device that has an ability to be connected to the Internet, we want to be on.”
MOBILE ANALYTICS: Advertising on a social network (as I have pointed out in my recent release white paper Mobile Advertising For the Masses, sponsored by Bango, which you can download here) provides brands access to key data, such as gender, preference, and whatever else members are willing to share. “For privacy reasons, [GyPSii analytics] will never say who a person is or anything else, but it will report things like gender, age, what other social networks that person is in. Think of a 3-D cluster map of the kind of people that are interested in that product, it helps them [advertisers] in real-time know where they should place their ads.” The feedback loop is simple: “We’ll help them know more about who’s interested in their products.”
WHAT’S NEXT?: “We’ve been in hunting mode and now we go into gathering mode. So, where are we going? We’re going to continue to hunt relentlessly. We will not yield until we sign every major OEM and ODM and carrier in the world – that’s hunting.” Execution goes hand-in-hand with innovation. We spoke shortly before the iPhone app launch, which Dan explains in the interview. Beyond that, we can look for a “release schedule that enhances that new user experience on all the other devices we’ve got.” Finally, GyPSii will expand what it calls the GyPSiiPlex, “all the data centers around the world adding capacity and fine tuning our algorithms.” (Dan calls the company’s core algorithm PlaceRank, a word play on PageRank.)
My take: My own mobile advertising research for a variety of projects including Mobile Advertising Research U.K., and MSG’s own publication/online resource MobiAD World Focus, brings me in contact with C-Level executives from a mix of mobile operators, agencies, brands, ad networks, and enablers. The questions on the top of the list: What is the value chain and who are the mouths we have to feed? The advance of companies like GyPSii tells us two things: We have to re-think how we define mobile advertising (Is it about brand message? Or is the end-game for advertisers simply the chance to communicate with social networks like GyPSii?), and the value chain we assume is coming together to deliver it.
Clearly, mobile social networks are making the shift from meeting place to market place, and having search and advertising baked in (in addition to all its other features/functionality) has earned GyPSii a prime position in the emerging mobile search and advertising business ecosystem.
Special thanks (again) to GyPSii for hosting my podcast until I can upload my content to the cloud and make it available to MSG readers via iTunes. It’s work in progress and coming soon!
In the next podcast, I look at a new app store approach from Bytemobile. For background I will also feature the video in the video player in the MSG sidebar.
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Tags: BlackBerry, China, GeoCentric, Google, GyPSii, Mobile Advertising U.K., mobile analytics, Mobile Marketing, Mobile Search, people-powered search, Samsung, social search
June 5th, 2009 at 3:37 pm
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